#大户持仓变化 Economic data release moment: Is it a nightmare for retail investors or harvest time for institutions?
Every time non-farm payrolls and unemployment rates are announced, the market shakes. But do you really understand what’s happening behind those numbers?
Most people's logic is counterintuitive. They think the market moves only when the data is released — wrong. The forces that truly determine the trend have already laid out their plans before the "official announcement." Institutions and large funds with access to primary information sources have long known the true picture of the data, often with an accuracy of over 80%. The "expected value" seen by retail investors? That’s just a smokescreen for subsequent operations.
Every sharp rise or fall when data is released is not the market "reacting," but funds executing their plans. Big players who have pre-positioned are waiting for this moment, using extreme short-term volatility to shake out followers. The stop-loss lines you've set are their targets for hunting.
What should you really pay attention to? **Average hourly wage data.** This directly influences the Federal Reserve's policy stance. Once wage growth exceeds expectations, the rate hike outlook will reignite. When the rate hike cycle starts, global liquidity faces contraction, squeezing the capital space for risk assets like $BTC and $ETH. Large funds are never afraid of whether the data is 4.4% or 4.5%, but how much impact the data has on expectations. And retail investors? Still fussing over that 0.1% difference.
Want to survive longer? Three tips:
**Don’t bet on the data.** You are always at the end of the information chain. Using guesswork to oppose others’ foresight is just giving away money.
**Watch the "lead time."** If the price has already moved a full trend before the data is released, then regardless of the result, it might mean this wave of price action has already "played out." The reverse risk often occurs at this moment.
**Stay calm.** There are always opportunities in the market. The key is not to be fooled by the drama of the data itself. On-chain capital flows and position changes are more genuine signals.
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0xSherlock
· 12-19 04:32
Here we go again, always saying that big players know in advance. But I've never seen any retail investor really turn things around by "observing the advance signals"...
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SwapWhisperer
· 12-17 12:06
Coming back with this again? First, look at the funding situation, and don't be fooled by those data press releases.
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GasFeeNightmare
· 12-16 08:11
It's the same old rhetoric... It's not wrong to say, but how many can actually do it? I always end up losing heavily at the stop-loss point, and this time I saw it again.
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AllTalkLongTrader
· 12-16 08:11
It's the same old story, always saying that big players knew in advance. So I ask, since you already predicted everything, why are there still so many liquidations?
The stop-loss line is just a prey's talk, I've heard it too many times. Now I don't set stop-losses anymore; anyway, it's death.
You've been talking about real signals for so long, why haven't you made any money yet?
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memecoin_therapy
· 12-16 08:09
You're still talking about institutions manipulating retail investors, aren't you tired of it?
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Basically, it's just information asymmetry. When can we all sit at the same table?
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I agree with the average hourly wage point, but the rest still depends on gut feeling and betting.
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Every time someone says not to bet on data, but isn't it still all in? This group of retail investors is really hopeless.
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On-chain fund flow analysis definitely needs more attention; the stop-loss lines have been hunted too many times.
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Instead of researching these, it's better to just hold onto BTC and sleep peacefully, worry-free.
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To be honest, the idea of an early indicator is quite interesting.
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Uh, so should I short or go long now? The article didn't make it clear.
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NotFinancialAdvice
· 12-16 08:06
Are you still talking about information asymmetry? You're not wrong, but hearing it too often, the key is how we can break out from the end point.
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I think the idea that the stop-loss line is the prey is outdated. Large investors can also get liquidated. Don't demonize it.
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I really didn't think about the hourly data. Next time before non-farm data, I need to focus on this.
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The idea of the提前量 (advance amount) is pretty good. It feels more reliable than just looking at expectations. Thanks.
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To be honest, without insider information, no one can escape; in the end, it's still a gamble.
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How do I interpret on-chain funds flow? Give me a tool, brother.
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Only after being exploited do you understand these principles. It should have been done this way long ago.
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This logic sounds reasonable, but I still can't figure out when the big players started to position themselves.
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Rather than obsessing over data, it's better to look directly at holdings changes. That makes sense.
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Staying calm is the hardest part. As soon as I see a limit-down, I panic.
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SatsStacking
· 12-16 08:00
Oh no, I got caught again. The saying "stop-loss line is the hunting line" is brilliant.
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Every time, it's just institutions putting on a show, retail investors buying in. When will it turn around and take a wave back from them?
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Hourly data is the real core; those who understand know, everything else is just a smokescreen.
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The perspective of the lead time is good; you need to learn to see the logic behind the charts rather than blindly chasing data.
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You're so right. When information is unequal, don't follow the trend. It's more reliable to honestly look at on-chain data.
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Every non-farm payroll report feels like a casino; I stopped gambling long ago.
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That 0.1% difference really doesn't matter. What they care about is liquidity contraction.
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SatsStacking also has to admit it has been caught several times. Now, I mainly look at position changes rather than these data.
#大户持仓变化 Economic data release moment: Is it a nightmare for retail investors or harvest time for institutions?
Every time non-farm payrolls and unemployment rates are announced, the market shakes. But do you really understand what’s happening behind those numbers?
Most people's logic is counterintuitive. They think the market moves only when the data is released — wrong. The forces that truly determine the trend have already laid out their plans before the "official announcement." Institutions and large funds with access to primary information sources have long known the true picture of the data, often with an accuracy of over 80%. The "expected value" seen by retail investors? That’s just a smokescreen for subsequent operations.
Every sharp rise or fall when data is released is not the market "reacting," but funds executing their plans. Big players who have pre-positioned are waiting for this moment, using extreme short-term volatility to shake out followers. The stop-loss lines you've set are their targets for hunting.
What should you really pay attention to? **Average hourly wage data.** This directly influences the Federal Reserve's policy stance. Once wage growth exceeds expectations, the rate hike outlook will reignite. When the rate hike cycle starts, global liquidity faces contraction, squeezing the capital space for risk assets like $BTC and $ETH. Large funds are never afraid of whether the data is 4.4% or 4.5%, but how much impact the data has on expectations. And retail investors? Still fussing over that 0.1% difference.
Want to survive longer? Three tips:
**Don’t bet on the data.** You are always at the end of the information chain. Using guesswork to oppose others’ foresight is just giving away money.
**Watch the "lead time."** If the price has already moved a full trend before the data is released, then regardless of the result, it might mean this wave of price action has already "played out." The reverse risk often occurs at this moment.
**Stay calm.** There are always opportunities in the market. The key is not to be fooled by the drama of the data itself. On-chain capital flows and position changes are more genuine signals.